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php, and light javascript, but have it work without js
no dependencies, no sql
have it speak to an http<-->irc bridge
because not every web browser supports web sockets
we don't need to use ajax
have the server run irchttpd
this will accept http requests
and translate them to irc
like if you want to send a PRVIMSG
use the web client to send a POST request
that's like posting a chat message
i mean if you don't want ajax
you could just have the browser refresh every 5 seconds
because most ISPs will block port 6667
irc is a "hacker's protocol"
it's blocked off on most intranets
so you need the web client to speak http
write the irc<-->httpd bridge in C
and then have the web client just do ajax and make simple requests to the bridge
you could even use curl to post on IRC
like if you want to fetch the chats
curl https://ircnow.org/?room=#team
GET /network/chan
something like that would be enough to fetch the chats
and if you want to send a message just send a simple post request
it'll be like a swiss army knife so people will use it for their own applications
i think it's possible to build the irc client
without ajax
if you really wanted
just have the browser refresh the page every 5 seconds
btw i'm 100% serious about the idea
i mean if you did it without ajax
this is an irc client that would work on lynx
that's pretty amazing
i'll call it the ircnow client, if you don't mind
just use PHP, make installing it as easy as uploading a single file
i'm definitely avoiding websockets
you can just have the web page poll every 5 seconds
refresh every 5 seconds
then it would work even with js disabled
you could make it have a mobile/responsive theme
naah doesn't even load in my browser
js free irc chat for the web
goals are: 1) works without JS, but can* use JS
2) only uses PHP, no other requirements, no other dependencies
3) can work for 99% of browsers out there
4) has a nice clean UI
5) can run on BSDs
what i want to do for the web client
is I want it to automatially connect to a bouncer
by default zero config necessary
i can provideyou the bouncers for the web client
it'll be more like a cgi script
rather than an app
you can use tables for layout
can't use grids or flexbox
you can use divs and tables for layout
you can also use display:table in css
https://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/perfect-3-column.htm
that's how to do it using old style css
first get something basic running for laptops
later on we'll do some weird responsive hacks to make it look good on phones
for phones probably you just hide the left and right panes
and just leave the center pane
how about we first work on the 1st version, the one that works on old trashy browsers
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